walking-love-incarnate replied to your video “Lost in the Stars…”: I love this song, even though it’s kinda atypical of martin’s style. (:
Yeah! You wouldn’t think he’d want to cover a standard like this (done by Sinatra & Judy Garland & who knows who…
Yes, yes, yes. Just a few of the qualities that make him a class-act.
I love the elevation of the “humble” little roots/trunks here to be just as worthy of attention as flowers :)
crazy-anka replied to your post: Another day, another epic music discussion thread…
i love your long-text posts!
oh STAHP ;DDD…thank you!! And if you (or anyone, of course!!) feel like jumping into the discussion on a post, please please feel free :)
Another day, another epic music discussion thread with serenadeyoursilence ;P (the past installments available at http://serenadeyoursilence.tumblr.com/post/82777232129/playing-the-angel). So I really LOVE your idea to do the PTA songs separately - like mini-essays, is bound to keep us (well, ok, me) focused ;)
Speaking of, I have the weirdest problem with meandering, wandering songs…free-jazz, hippie noodling, prog-rock, looong solos of any kind…you made me think of it with In-a-Gadda… which isn’t really fair since it’s a recognized masterpiece of the genre. Over in Zep-land I guess their closest example was Dazed & Confused of course, especially live…which sorta bugged me too. I guess I just fall way over on the pop-punk, get-in, get-out, don’t-waste-time side of the spectrum vs. the sit-down-and-stay-a-while, hey-check-out-this-cool-sound-over-HERE side of the spectrum. But your argument is making me rethink my unfair and uptight biases ;)))))
Ok, you say you aren’t a Devotee, when I would observe there’s no official test you have to pass to call yourself one. Hmmm, maybe one route is if you can appreciate Mart’s songwriting genius (even in pop fluff like It’s Called a Heart :D) you’re surely in. Hell, I say you’re in simply if you wanna be…the more the merrier. Actually, I hear ya….obviously, songs either “grab” us or don’t - musically OR lyrically - and if they don’t we can go thru all kinds of machinations but I don’t think they will. It’s almost like faith; you can want it, but if you don’t have it, you don’t have it. (Though sometimes it’s amazing how much repeated listens can open an album up…or open us up to the album, I don’t know which.) So it is PERFECTLY okay - of course ;D - if DM doesn’t do it for you and others do. I am a HUGE fan of musical polygamy…or at least serial monogamy :)
Ahhhh I totally hear you about SOFAD!! Is actually one of the cases I mention above where the album as a whole sorta left me cold & by repeated listens I “get it” now (worked for Exciter too, sort of magical ;)). But I will never be one of those worshiping SOFAD with such, uh, faith & devotion :P. Musically, so much of it feels overworked to me in a way I think no other DM album does; it practically creaks & groans with the months of PAINED effort (that’s the key) when ideally you want that hidden like a good magic trick. Not all; for instance, One Caress certainly involved skill to arrange those strings, but the astonishing spontaneity of the recording - minimal takes, done live with the orchestra - makes it feel the song just *is*, sorta sprang out of the deepest forest just like that :D. But I hear the strain; and more important in my mind, I can’t stop thinking about the conflict & PAIN that had to happen for the album to exist. There are undoubtedly all-time classics on there…they were just very hard-won.
And agreed too, I do NOT get people so negative about DM’s blues leanings. Dave has been a passionate proponent of bluesy rock vocals and approaches for years. And Martin…blues, soul, gospel, r&b have been a part of him ever since he started writing songs as you said, & cropping up when he’s left to his own devices like b-sides (Death’s Door…) or off the record singing in hotels (In the Ghetto…) or traditional covers (Motherless Child, John the Revelator…). I read so many online commenters bitching about Delta Machine’s blues. I was enthralled by it - it felt like what these old, OLD blues forms and sounds may sound like in some distant future, or maybe some alternate universe. So old, so new, brilliant. And if any group of “rock stars” have the cred to “sing the blues” it’s these guys ;)
Bad sign when you write so long, tumblr won’t let you reblog ;). Reply to you serenadeyoursilence :)
Thx, so so fun to hear what you think on all of this :D.
Key really can be everything in a song, too true. Think I may know which JCGE you mean - if it’s the one with the long minor…
Oh, I love the changing emotion in a song. It’s surprising, it’s refreshing. I love to have that heavy feeling in my stomach, when after being taken high and then so suddenly being dropped. Like in “Colorado Bulldog” from Mr. Big (amazing joy-ride from Billy Sheehan (bass) and Pat Torpey (drums) and I really don’t have to say a word about the maestro - Paul Gilbert (guitar), or “Fairground” from Simply Red (which amazingly has the same nuance with “I Feel Loved”) and if you want to have a 17 minute pure ecstasy, I recommend you “In A-gadda-da-vida” from Iron Butterfly (baritone vocal, beautiful conversation between guitar-keyboard-drums-bass, especially the part where the drums solo was almost over, then the keyboard answered it with soft tune, and when you thought they would slowly fade away, the guitar and the bass burst in with such power you would think (Shiva) Nataraja danced to it! And just close your eyes to listen to the bass solo and the guitar outcry… really, if Nataraja danced to it…)
Ah… my ‘relationship’ to “Enjoy The Silence”. Perhaps, in a way, it is a cruel paradox, a cynicism on the highest level. And favourite songs… that’s kinda hard to define, I think. I can only say, songs that really mean to me are not from DM… yeah, I am not a devotee… I even consider myself a lousy fan ;). DM Songs that guide me through my colourful life are, you would laugh, “It’s called a heart”… oh, I have faced a lot of problems for following the advice in the song down to the ‘t’. And “Judas”, of course. And some more songs…
Seeing how you see ETS and “Precious”, yeah I can understand. The good thing about “Precious” is, it is more an introspection to the older man himself, and not an accusation to anybody. A grief, not only crying over love that has gone, but also a realization not to hurt or cause more damages to the things that matter or have great value to him (albeit the name, precious). He could only hope and pray that it wasn’t too late to fight and have his life back, a life that can keep and protect his precious. No more silence, no more keeping things to himself.
DM and rock… the short flirtation with rock period I would say, ‘Song of Faith and Devotion’. An album, which until now, doesn’t sit right with me. I really don’t give monkeys what critics or others think about this album, I just can’t get it. Yeah, I know, I love “Judas”, but only the lyric. Not the music. No disrespect to Alan or Fletch, but they are no drummer or bassist. But then again, I got used to listen to Roger Taylor - John Deacon (Queen); Jack Bruce - Ginger Baker (Cream), Billy Sheehan - Pat Torpey (Mr. Big), Bonham -Jones (Zeppelin)… it’s kinda hard to make me like Alan/Fletch drum-bass combination.
I think “Ultra” was more a search of a new sound. I don’t think they wanted to continue having the old sound now that Alan wasn’t in the band. One side, it’s kinda difficult to do; the other, perhaps, they wanted to have a new start. And I think they manage to pull it. Yeah, I know, many don’t like the blues element in DM… I read somewhere, some even ranted for hearing blues element in DM, you know, blues and DM just don’t match… they really should try to listen The French Look - early Mart’s group, which played blues. And wasn’t ‘Personal Jesus’ in a very Mode way - a blues song? And “Condemnation”?
Kinda funny, I just had a discussion about drummers (do I ever have other subject, I wonder) with a fan of Kitaro. We watched a Kitaro’s live show video, and our minds were blown away by the master and crew performance. The Kitaro fan agreed that real drums can’t be replaced. They are like the heart, the driving force that pumps the blood through the vein. But as I always believe, a good drummer is not the loud or the fast one, but he or she who can control the sound. To become one with the other and create grand(er) sound.
I am totally excited about ‘drums’ discussion. Because Darling, in a band, I fancy the drummer. Even when he is only an electronic rabbit.
The only reason I play loud music is so that it will be louder than my voice. Because I WILL sing.